http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/232.aspxAn area for discussion of Fruit and Veg. related questions, queries and tipsCommunityServer 2007.1 SP1 (Debug Build: 30415.43)http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/5487.aspxMon, 13 Feb 2006 08:53:24 GMT067b4958-8d6e-4ae0-88b5-4af491fdf8f2:5487headfullofbees0http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/5487.aspxhttp://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=232&PostID=5487If I were you I'd kill off eveything first. I tried to dig the lawn out, as I wanted to be as "organic" as possible. Big mistake. The lawn has, for the past two years kept trying to grow back, meaning endless hours of fun with the fork! Have given up and used "Weedol 2" as suggested by others.http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/3625.aspxMon, 11 Jul 2005 22:28:33 GMT067b4958-8d6e-4ae0-88b5-4af491fdf8f2:3625freckledfrog660http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/3625.aspxhttp://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=232&PostID=3625We have sucessfully created a vegetable and fruit garden on one third of out garden, after encountering stones (from masses of tiny ones to boulder size, heavy clay, an incline,brambles, bindweed, course grass and an extremely windy garden...so there is hope. Having only started this year we have outdoor tomatoes (doing well), courgettes, apples, pears, rhubarb, and are in the process of digging out more from turf which we have stacked grass side down!!!!! We marked our beds, used an edger, and then used a spade to slice under the grass and you can make a really long turf with hardly any effort! Good luckhttp://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/3624.aspxMon, 11 Jul 2005 15:31:44 GMT067b4958-8d6e-4ae0-88b5-4af491fdf8f2:3624Michelle R0http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/3624.aspxhttp://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=232&PostID=3624I have started my first vegetable patch this year which was also a lawn. I lifted the turf and have stacked it. I have also been informed that there are sometimes problems when planting vegetalbes where previously turf has been and that the best thing to do is dig in some good quality manure before planting.http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/3623.aspxTue, 05 Jul 2005 21:57:02 GMT067b4958-8d6e-4ae0-88b5-4af491fdf8f2:3623P Stick0http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/3623.aspxhttp://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=232&PostID=3623Hire a power turf cutter if you haven't already got one and stack the turf upsidedown for use a year or two on. If chemicals were not used on it then it will be ideal for digging into the veg plot.http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/3622.aspxThu, 30 Jun 2005 21:58:53 GMT067b4958-8d6e-4ae0-88b5-4af491fdf8f2:3622Janine0http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/3622.aspxhttp://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=232&PostID=3622Good luck with the new veggie plot. There are basically 2 main options as I see it. 1) Lift the turf and stack it upside down - after around 12 months you will have excellent loam, or 2) Spray the site with something like Weedol 2 and after everything has died dig it over. The dead turf is good organic matter.. If you simply dig in the live turf you will cause yourself lots of grief later on. Which ever way you go it will be very hard work so do it in stages and watch your technique and protect your back. All the besthttp://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/3621.aspxThu, 30 Jun 2005 21:20:45 GMT067b4958-8d6e-4ae0-88b5-4af491fdf8f2:3621veggieplot0http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/thread/3621.aspxhttp://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=232&PostID=3621I am starting off my first vegetable plot on a part of my garden that is currently all lawn. What is the best way to remove the grass? I could lift the turf and store it for a later date after it has broke down, or I could turn it over and dig it in, but will this cause me trouble later on.