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Water butts & stagnant water

Last post 14-06-2013 10:29 AM by gardener1980. 44 replies.

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  • 18/06/2007 11:23 AM
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  • 02/04/2008 04:42 PM
    • oldlady
    • 25 Mar 2007
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    I have at last found something that works and is ok for plants - it uses natural plant extracts. Hozelock Water Butt Treatment. If this isn't as safe as it seems, someone please let me know. You have to drain and clean out the butts first and use this once a fortnight. The reason I can't stand the normal smell is that the butts are just outside my door from the dining room to the garden.

  • 15/04/2009 09:23 PM
    • jojobean
    • W Monkton
    • 15 Apr 2009
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    A dessertspoon of olive oil into the water butt before popping the lid back on creates a slick that means things can't grow in there.

  • 20/04/2009 12:26 PM
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    On the contrary this would limit oxygenation of the water leading to anaerobic organisms which pong especially badly.  The oil trick is said to work on gnat and other larvae by blocking access to air via their breathing tubes but it is unclear if this really works.  It certaintly snots up the butt though with oily deposits for a while.

     

    Boggy

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  • 20/04/2009 03:02 PM
    • sue1002
    • Ipswich, Suffolk
    • 06 Sep 2005
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     I can confirm that the oil does help stop insects from breeding inside the butts.  I can also confirm that after trying it once, I won't be using this method again - it very much did snot the butt up and was a b'tard to clean!!

    For me from now on is sticking to covering the downpipe with old socks/stockings or whatever I can find and taping the lid on so no insects can get inside.

    sue1002
  • 29/06/2009 12:31 AM
    • SallyClare
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    • 28 Jun 2009
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    Hi, I am new to the site so haven't read all the postings. Perhaps someone can help me out. I have two water buts on each side of my garden, one is great but the other has produced tiny little mites something like a transparent tadpole. They are so tiny its when they dart about swimming in the water that they are visible.  A friend said they might be water fleas. I have emptied the but once and cleaned it well, but days after filling it the mites have returned and I am afraid to use the water on vegetables.  I grow lettuce and salad food etc, this side of the garden. The water does not smell and is quite clear. At the moment I have put the lid on the but and wont use until I have got rid of the mites.
    Any Idea as to what they are? how to get rid of them or if they will harm plants or indeed cause health problems if the water is used to feed the salad items. Thanks for any advise I would be so grate.
     
    I an new on the site and tried to post this question but got here I apologise if this is the wrong posting area. Thanks again if anyone can help

  • 29/06/2009 10:05 AM
    • sue1002
    • Ipswich, Suffolk
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    The things swimming about in your water butts SallyClare could be the larvae of any insect.  The water itself will be perfectly ok for watering veggies with.

    Gnats and mozzies (and probably a few others) breed in water butts and the best way of keeping them out is to keep a lid on the butts and tape up any holes so the adults can't gain access in the first place.

    sue1002
  • 29/06/2009 09:36 PM
    • Digger
    • Northern UK
    • 18 Jul 2005
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    I've got some swimming things in my water tubs they move in a zig zag motion swimming under water

    digger Devil Sage of the fells
  • 29/06/2009 11:45 PM
    • SallyClare
    • Wales
    • 28 Jun 2009
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    Hi Thanks for the advice, I will give another clean and put some sort of fine sieve on the inlet water pipe. Thanks again I hope this will work. Sally

  • 03/07/2009 05:37 PM
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    I read somewhere that mozzie larvae can be minimized by keeping goldfish in the water butt.  I don't know how this would affect them being kept in the dark, but I guess if there was no lid and some sort of mesh across the top to let light in and keep predators out it might work.  I guess they would need to be brought indoors for a bit of a holiday over the winter, but if it works it seems like an original and chemical free method of keeping both mozzies and algae at bay.

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  • 06/07/2009 06:47 AM
    • Nigel
    • Paignton
    • 27 May 2008
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     If I get mosquito larvae in my open butts (no lids means easier to fill watering cans etc) a few drops of washing up liquid (I use Ecover) reduces the surface tension and the beasties cannot stick to the surface to breath. 

    Nigel

  • 15/04/2011 10:13 AM
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    Perhaps a bit late to this strand, but there is a solution which might help you. Google for "ecopure water treatment filter". This uses ceramic balls to clean the water. It is not cheap but lasts up to 3 years. 

    http://www.mygreenerhome.co.uk
  • 19/04/2011 05:56 PM
    • potpotty
    • Colchester, Essex
    • 19 Apr 2011
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    Hi,

     

    I've just joined this forum and have questions about a water butt which fit in with some of this discussion so I wondered if anyone could help.

     

    I've just got a water butt and haven't fitted it yet.  The problem I have is that the pipe I thought to be the down pipe from the roof turned out not to be that (I am blind and when someone looked at it for me they said that pipe comes from upstairs' bathroom, not the roof).  Anyhow so basically the place where I'd fit it if I connected it to the down pipe is right by my front door and given that I'm also a wheelchair user it may be tricky for me to squeeze past the butt.  There is also a slight slope out there and I worry that the butt may not stand up properly even though it comes with a stand, I'm not convinced it's a good idea and worry it will fall over and pull the whole down pipe with it.

     

    So I'm thinking instead of connecting to the down pipe why not just leave it standing on my patio with no lid and collect water that way?  From what I have read I understand there could be three problems with this.  1) birds falling in, 2) algae and 3) mozzies and various creatures breeding in the butt.   

     

    1) For birds falling in - if I cover it securely with fine mesh of some sort would that be ok?  If so where would I buy that sort of mesh and what specific material/product am I looking for?

     

    2) I am in two minds as to whether algae actually matters.  People seem divided about this.  Any thoughts?  I certainly wouldn’t use the water on seedlings.

     

    3) For the mozzies and the algae I have read that getting a goldfish could help.  I could do this but wonder – when you fill a watering can from the butt could the fish get into the can as well?  Do you just have to keep an eye on it and make sure the fish doesn’t get put out of your can onto the plants?  If so I’ll just have to have a feel around in there and make sure there aren’t any fish.  Or perhaps the fish can’t escape – I actually don’t have a watering can at the moment I use milk bottles filled up with tap water; but from what I remember  last time I felt a watering can they have sprinklers and a fish couldn’t get through there anyway.  So maybe I’d fill up the can, sprinkle the plants and empty any left over into the butt?

     

    I suppose the algae and the mozzies/breeding things can cause the bad smell but I could try the various cleaning methods people talk about here.

     

     

    Any thoughts on any of this would be welcome :-)

    Thanks

  • 22/05/2012 12:31 PM
    • Michael
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    • 21 May 2012
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    I have used Organica Rainfresh in my water buts for 4 years, the water has always been clear and fresh. 

  • 14/06/2013 10:29 AM
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    A Water butt called Rainwater terrace stops this I think, water flows from one tank to the next each time it rains so the water has little chance to go stagnant.