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  • 09/08/2008 04:33 PM
    • Digger
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    • 18 Jul 2005
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     Hi all, Yep kids are little devils when they want to be, our young monkey is here with his friend at the moment playing on the nintendo wii thing, it's good that you have your cd running susiq there is a link on the cd to the forum that supports the software, it's a nice forum. the wind has picked up here and the rain is still coming down in bucketloads! what a swizz I wish I lived somewhere nice and sunny, I believe that Arizona is nice and warm all the time that would be good for my arthritis,now I just need to persuade OH to sell up and emigrate.

    digger Devil
  • 09/08/2008 04:51 PM
    • Beebee
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    • 29 Jan 2008
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    I'm with you digger.  We look forward all thru the dreary winter months to spring and summer and today is awful, its dark, its gloomy, its rainy, really fed up.

  • 09/08/2008 05:31 PM
    • Anemone
    • County Down, Northern Ireland
    • 08 Feb 2008
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    Thanks digger and Susiq, hopefully what's left will be ok then.  I can tell you this much, he won't get to taste a single mouthful and he likes sweetcorn!  Susiq I think he knows exactly how much work I put into it though I'm sure he will regret the tantrum.  I'm about to start a rumour that the neglected weedy bit at the bottom of the garden that's supposed to become a wildflower meadow is my pride and joy! Wink

    We had a very wet and windy night and early morning and I had to go to a funeral this morning but it cleared up in time for the cemetery thank goodness.  I got the last of the sugarsnap peas picked when I got home then.  Some of them have gone a bit beyond eating whole but they're lovely shelled too.

    Delighted you got the CD to work Susiq.  I'm going to ring Neil on Monday and order mine.

    Anemone
  • 09/08/2008 05:58 PM
    • Susiq
    • Northumberland
    • 16 Feb 2008
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    Ha ha ha - do you know, I woz going to say when I first saw your post that I hoped you would all eat your sweetcorn with LASHINGS of butter and not let errant son have any - but I thought maybe's I was being too cruel!?!?!?

  • 09/08/2008 06:05 PM
    • sue1002
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     Sounds like you have had a good harvest Anemone, and I don't blame you for denying your sons the sweetcorn, I would have done the same.

     

    Glad you got the CD-Rom working Susiq, it will give you something to read and use while it's raining.

     

    We've been out to see OH's family today, the morning was nice and dry but come the afternoon it's been bucketing down ever since.  Tomorrow should be nice and dry though, after all this rain I think there will be a lot of weeding to do. 

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  • 09/08/2008 06:13 PM
    • Susiq
    • Northumberland
    • 16 Feb 2008
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    do NOT mention weeding!!! I ventured out this 'aft, have done the 'big rockery' took a good few hours, BUT, there is a weed up here which is meant to be deadly poisonous - I will endeavour to look it up on my 'new toy', anyway, its everywhere down the 'jungle' end of the pond, apparently you shouldn't touch it without gloves on - (yellow flowers on the top of said 'scallywag').

    Seems our weather is topsy-turvy country-wise!

  • 09/08/2008 06:22 PM
    • Digger
    • Northern UK
    • 18 Jul 2005
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    Sounds like ragwort susiq, some call it stagger weed, and some believe that it's okay for cattle to eat but it's not okay for anything except some dodgy caterpillars, make sure you wear gloves and burn the weeds afterwards use disposable gloves so you can bin them after. It used to be an offence to allow ragwort to grow on your land but it's hardly enforced anymore although last time I checked it was still a notifiable weed.

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  • 09/08/2008 06:33 PM
    • Susiq
    • Northumberland
    • 16 Feb 2008
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    Thanx Digger - that's exactly what I'd been told by the locals up here about wearing gloves - apparently/allegedly, British Rail used to keep it in check, growing by the wayside of train lines, but obviously no-one keeps it in check anymore? Its absolutely rampant up here and I would hate for any of our chickens or more importantly Portia to decide to sample any of it by accidentSad

  • 09/08/2008 06:49 PM
    • Digger
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    If the weed is growing on the railway land you can ring them up and tell them to mobe it, they do have a responsibility for it, thankfully the weed is not very nice to eat when it's growing but if it's cut and dries out it makes it more palateable for animals,there is no cure once it's been ingested,so just be really sure you don't leave any bits around that might dry up, our horses don't eat it if they see it growing but we regularily have to walk the fields and the paddocks and pull any out as we come across it, we see quite a bit growing at the side of the motorways round here, but it's not as bad as it used to be, there are loads and loads of horse owners around here and they are good at putting pressure on the local council to get the stuff shifted, it has to be dug out spraying with weedkiller is a dangerous mistake.

    digger Devil
  • 09/08/2008 07:20 PM
    • Phot's-Moll
    • The sunny South coast.
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     It's still illegal to allow ragwort to grow on your land.

    The poison is cumulative, apparently. A cow, horse etc can eat some and be fine, but if they continue eating it over a long period it can kill them. (Believe it damages the liver or kidneys?)

    I used to pull ragwort as a kid to earn my pocket money. I wasn't aware touching it could be harmfull, but I wore gloes as it's tough to pull out and would hurt your hands otherwise. As I worse shorts and t-shirts for the job there was plenty of skin contact and I didn't suffer any ill effects.

    Rainy here too. Really glad I cut the grass yesterday - and picked another huge bowl of tomatoes! I've made soup and started some off to dry and I'm putting them in every savoury dish and having tomato salad for lunch and giving them away ...

    Whether you think you can do a thing, or think you cannot, you are right.
  • 09/08/2008 07:54 PM
    • Anemone
    • County Down, Northern Ireland
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    As a matter of interest, did dock and dandelion used to be notifiable weeds?  Are they still?  I remember many years ago seeing a notice outside our local police station advising landowners that they had to destroy these.  Our local council appear to actively cultivate dandelions along the verges and you can see the clocks blowing around on windy days.  Hmm

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  • 09/08/2008 08:26 PM
    • Digger
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    I wish dandelions were illegal, ragwort is a notifiable weed but it's difficult these days to get anyone interested enough to pursue the local authority, if a horse eats some ragwort it is not immediately apparent but the damage is done to the liver of the horse and the outside early symptons are difficult to spot immediately,unless you've got a good knowledge of what to look for, in a lot of cases the first thing people notice is the poor animal will stagger about rather than walk, hence the name "stagger weed" by this time it is fatal and the kindest thing is to put the poor horse to sleep, it's damned annoying when the local council is too scruffy and full of it's own importance that they let the stuff grow on their land right adjacent to expensive horse grazing land, but round theses parts as I say are loads of horses and owners who are good at making a nuisance of themselves when the council don't do as they should

    digger Devil
  • 09/08/2008 09:50 PM
    • schol49
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     Dandelion has so many uses Digger such as Dandelion Tea Dandelion &Burdock is it not also used in Folk Medicine

    as a Dieuretic. In Scotland They are known as Pee The Beds The Name in French is Pis en Lit They have been used by humans for food and herbalism for much of recorded history.

    While the dandelion is considered a weed by most gardeners and lawn owners, the plant does have several culinary uses, and the specific name officinalis refers to its value as a medicinal herb. Dandelions are grown commercially on a small scale as a leaf vegetable. The leaves (called dandelion greens) can be eaten cooked or raw in various forms, such as in soup or salad. They are probably closest in character to mustard greens. Usually the young leaves and unopened buds are eaten raw in salads, while older leaves are cooked. Raw leaves have a slightly bitter taste. Dandelion salad is often accompanied with hard boiled eggs. The leaves are high in vitamin A, vitamin C and iron, carrying more iron and calcium than spinach.Music

    Dandelion flowers can be used to make dandelion wine, for which there are many recipes.[9] It has also been used in a saison ale called Pissenlit (literally "wet the bed" in French) made by Brasserie Fantôme in Belgium. Another recipe using the plant is dandelion flower jam. Ground roasted dandelion root can be used as a coffee substitute. Dandelion root is a registered drug in Canada, sold principally as a diuretic. A leaf decoction can be drunk to "purify the blood", for the treatment of anemia, jaundice, and also for nervousness. Drunk before meals, dandelion root coffee is claimed to stimulate digestive functions and function as a liver tonic. "Dandelion and Burdock" is a soft drink that has long been popular in the United Kingdom with authentic recipes sold by health food shops. It is unclear whether cheaper supermarket versions actually contain extracts of either plant.

    The milky latex has been used as a mosquito repellent;[10]the milk has also been used to treat warts, as a folk remedy.[11]

    Yellow or green dye colours can be obtained from the flowers but little colour can be obtained from the roots of the plant.[12]

    A plate of sauteed dandelion greens, with Wehani rice
    A plate of sauteed dandelion greens, with Wehani rice

    Antioxidant properties

    Dandelion contains luteolin, an antioxidant, and has demonstrated antioxidant properties without cytotoxicity.[13][14]

     Caffeic acid and carcinogenicity

    Caffeic acid is a secondary plant metabolite produced in dandelion, yarrow, horsetail and whitethorn. Despite its name, it is unrelated to caffeine. Recent studies have revealed this acid may be carcinogenic. When caffeic acid was tested for carcinogenicity by oral administration in mice, renal cell adenomas appeared in females, and a high incidence of renal tubular cell hyperplasia occurred in animals of each sex.[15] However, more recent research shows that bacteria present in the rodents' intestines may alter the formation of metabolites of caffeic acid.[16][17] There have been no known ill effects of caffeic acid in humans.

    To Link it with Ragwort is treating such a helpful plant unfairly

     

    Bees

    Dandelions are important plants for bees. Not only is their Template:Phenology used as an indicator that the honey bee season is starting, but they are also an important source of nectar and pollen early in the season.]

     Pearl bordered Fritillary

    They are also used as nectar for Pearl-bordered Fritillary (Boloria euphrosyne), one of the earliest emerging butterflies in the spring.

     

    False dandelions

    Macro photo of dandelion seed dispersal.
    Macro photo of dandelion seed dispersal.

    Dandelions are so similar to catsears (Hypochaeris) that catsears are also known as "false dandelions." Both plants carry similar flowers which form into windborne seeds. However, dandelion flowers are borne singly on unbranched, hairless and leafless, hollow stems, while catsear flowering stems are branched, solid and carry bracts. Both plants have a basal rosette of leaves and a central taproot. However, the leaves of dandelions are smooth or glabrous, whereas those of catsears are coarsely hairy.

    Other plants with superficially similar flowers include hawkweeds (Hieracium) and hawksbeards (Crepis). These are both readily distinguished by their branched flowering stems which are usually hairy and bear leaves.

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    [edit] References

    1. ^ Dandelion - J. Doll and T. Trower
    2. ^ Richards, A.J. (1997). Dandelions of Great Britain and Ireland (Handbooks for Field Identification). BSBI Publications, 330. ISBN 978-0901158253. 
    3. ^ http://www.jstor.org/pss/2430530
    4. ^ Taraxacum latilobum in Flora of North America @ efloras.org
    5. ^ Gardening in Western Washington: Dandelions
    6. ^ S. Potter & L. Sargent (1973) Pedigree: essays on the etymology of words from nature. Collins New Naturalist series Volume 56
    7. ^ http://fieldcrop.msu.edu/documents/GR03-050.pdf
    8. ^ Common Dandelion
    9. ^ winemaking: Dandelion Wines
    10. ^ Plantwatch - Plants
    11. ^ Dandelion - The Natural History Museum - Country Cures
    12. ^ A. Dyer (1976) Dyes from natural sources. G. Bell & Sons Ltd., London
    13. ^ Chun Hu and David D. Kitts. Food, Nutrition and Health, Faculty of Agricultural Sciences, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, BC, Canada. October 2004. Luteolin and luteolin-7-O-glucoside from dandelion flower suppress iNOS and COX-2 in RAW264.7 cells. Springer Netherlands. 245:1-2(107-113).
    14. ^ Luteolin and luteolin-7-O-glucoside from dandelion flower suppress iNOS and COX-2 in RAW264.7 cells
    15. ^ Caffeic acid phenethyl ester is a potent and specific inhibitor of activation of nuclear transcription factor NF-kappa B., Natarajan K, Singh S, Burke TR Jr, Grunberger D, Aggarwal BB., Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U S A., 1996 Aug 20;93(17):9090-5.
    16. ^ Caffeic Acid Metabolism by Gnotobiotic Rats and their Intestinal Bacteria
    17. ^ Chlorogenic Acid Bioavailability Largely Depends on Its Metabolism by the Gut Microflora in Rats
    18. ^ {{cite web | url=http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/cgi-bin/arr_html?Taraxacum+kok-saghyz | title=Plants for a future: Taraxacum kok-saghiz

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  • 10/08/2008 02:43 PM
    • Jo
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    I wish bind weed was a notifiable weed, the council would have a full-time job here with it!

    I wish it would stop raining, dashing in and out between showers is not funny anymore, I can't get anything significant done.

     Never mind I am looking into college courses instead, I fancy doing horticulture, just so I can learn more for my own enjoyment (could be a while before I own my own garden centre) Anyone else gone down this road. There is a betec or a rhs qualification and as it is only two and a half hours a week for 2 years I think I could fit it in between work, family etc.

    What is everyone else up to today?

  • 10/08/2008 03:50 PM
    • Digger
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    Well I'm certainly sharing some of the weather with you Jo we've had over four inches of rain last night and this morning, and we are currently being battered by 60mph winds......... I'm well cheesed off. A lot of my sweetpeas are damaged beyond repair again, it's so difficult trying to have a nice garden in these parts!We've been out to a local horse rescue centre today,a few weeks ago OH helped them to rescue an abused pony that was being left in a field with no food,water or care and the best bit is that it was in a field next door to the rspca animal shelter in Altham, the rspca was notified months ago but they didn't act because they only do small animals at that shelter!!!! they did nothing not even contacting a horse rescue facility, so OH contacted HAPPA and they seized the animal and got her back up here to their centre,we've been to see the little mare and she has been washed and treated for her terrible sweet itch, full of scabs and open sores. The horse had never been fed hay or hayledge and had never been in a stable before,lucky that OH spotted the horse when she did because another few weeks would have seen it off. So we've done our bit and I was cajoled into giving them a donation when I was visiting so they've done okay.

    digger Devil