Plant / Tree Identification needed pics added

Last post 16-06-2012 9:57 AM by Silver surfer. 7 replies.

• 14/06/2012 11:39 PM

  lotus Location: W London Joined on: 14 Jun 2012 Posts: 4

  Reply | Contact  Hi All, I'm new to the forum. I live in W London and was wondering if anyone could identify this tree that has been growning in my garden. At the moment its attracting hundreds of bees. Apologies for the large pics, don't know how to shrink them down just yet. Tree1     Plant1     Plant2   Plant3(This one is a rose plant, but what kind?, isit possible to tell without seeing the flower?)

• 15/06/2012 06:03 AM	In reply to
  Julie Location: London Joined on: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 410	Reply | Contact Welcome to the forum. Plant 2 looks like buddleja. It should bloom soon and the flowers should confirm that.

• 15/06/2012 09:02 AM

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  Silver surfer Location: South Wales. U.K. Joined on: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,392

  Reply | Contact Pic 1. and 2. Look like Photinia davidiana. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1030&bih=496&tbm=isch&tbnid=eIMKRl3UBHEqYM:&imgrefurl=http://apps.rhs.org.uk/plantselector/plant%3Fplantid%3D1441&docid=rHfspVWr08bHvM&imgurl=http://apps.rhs.org.uk/plantselectorimages/detail/WSY0034727_4811.jpg&w=407&h=268&ei=4evaT8aONoKL8gOS77SrCw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=561&vpy=166&dur=735&hovh=182&hovw=277&tx=198&ty=94&sig=117860512390613209384&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=188&start=0&ndsp=10&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0,i:95 Pic 3. Leaves wrong shape and texture for Buddleja. Looks like  Syringa vulgaris. Common name Lilac. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1536&bih=776&tbm=isch&tbnid=rDEkBge9UZXfHM:&imgrefurl=http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ldplants/syvu3.htm&docid=93TjSRtBDO4CkM&imgurl=http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ldplants/images/syvu71.jpg&w=497&h=400&ei=P-3aT4OTOouU8gPw84WfCw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=186&vpy=292&dur=8131&hovh=201&hovw=250&tx=120&ty=90&sig=105050878957448920657&page=1&tbnh=146&tbnw=181&start=0&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0,i:92 Pic 4.  Looks like Sambucus nigra. Common name Elder. https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&cp=7&gs_id=s&xhr=t&q=sambucus+nigra&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1536&bih=776&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=3ezaT-XoGM7_8QPCzcCjCw Pic 5. Rosa. But not a clue which one.  Hard enough when they have flowers. Sorry Lotus. Welcome to the forums!

• 16/06/2012 12:12 AM	In reply to
  lotus Location: W London Joined on: 14 Jun 2012 Posts: 4	Reply | Contact  Thank you for the replys :)  You've been a great help, and thanks for the warm welcome

• 16/06/2012 06:41 AM	In reply to
  Julie Location: London Joined on: 28 Apr 2009 Posts: 410	Reply | Contact "plant 2" is actually the 4th pic. It sure looks like buddleja to me (I have a few in my garden). It should bloom this summer so you should know for sure soon.

• 16/06/2012 09:40 AM	In reply to
  jon jon Location: stratford on avon Joined on: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 284	Reply | Contact the new growth on plant 2 looks like elder to me

• 16/06/2012 09:50 AM	In reply to
  miranda Location: Oxfordshire Joined on: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 4,070	Reply | Contact Looks like elder to me too. Compare the leaf edges of elder and Buddleja and you can see that elder leaves are more sharply serrated and that the serrations point forward, while Buddleja leaves have much shallower serration. You can also see the difference in the thickness and veining of the leaves.

• 16/06/2012 09:57 AM

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  Silver surfer Location: South Wales. U.K. Joined on: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,392

  Reply | Contact Pic 4. Buddleja davidii, which is the most commonly grown one, has leaves which are opposite to each other on the branch. They have a sort of soft woolly feel to them, especially  when young. http://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/03030800-0b07-490a-8d04-0605030c0f01/media/Images/Buddleja_davidii/buddleja%20davidii10.jpg  Unless I am very very wrong the leaves I am looking at are pinnate.  Down the centre of the stalk is a groove,a slight dent which is very typical of Sambucus nigra.  It may be to young a shrub to have the typical flat top white flower which are now on the bushes. This link clearly shows what a single elder leaf looks like. One leaf consisting of 5 leaflets. Note the groove on the 1st pic  http://www.flickr.com/photos/14230388@N03/4567146557/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/14230388@N03/4567778526/in/photostream/ They can have more leaflets than 5. http://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/03030800-0b07-490a-8d04-0605030c0f01/media/Html/Sambucus_nigra.htm