Shrub ID help

Last post 08-06-2012 11:23 PM by Anonymous. 8 replies.

• 08/06/2012 05:57 PM

  Hedgelayer Location: Nottinghamshire Joined on: 02 Jun 2012 Posts: 22

  Reply | Contact  Hi,  Can you help ID this shrub? It's vigorous - I cut this right back to ground last year. It seems to flower from last year's growth. I've got a few more; I think I know these, but if anyone would like to have a crack, just to confirm.. There's the odd pink, funnel like flower, which leads to a red fruit. I'm told it really flowers in Winter (It's at work, and I'm only there 6 months a year in summer, so I've never seen it fully in flower). Thanks for any help.

• 08/06/2012 06:23 PM	In reply to
  Hedgelayer Location: Nottinghamshire Joined on: 02 Jun 2012 Posts: 22	Reply | Contact  There's another plant, but I can't post the picture in the first post.   Sorry it's blurred, but it wouldn't stay still in today's wind. The flowers tend to close up in the afternoon.   Thanks

• 08/06/2012 06:57 PM

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  Silver surfer Location: South Wales. U.K. Joined on: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,396

  Reply | Contact 1. and 2. Look like Buddleja alternifolia. https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&cp=11&gs_id=18&xhr=t&q=buddleja+alternifolia&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1536&bih=776&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=vDzST_GlHcjA8QOn5qWrAw 3.  Looks like a Viburnum. A winter flowering one such as Viburnum x bodnantense. https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&cp=10&gs_id=14&xhr=t&q=viburnum+x+bodnantense&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1152&bih=555&wrapid=tljp1339178278805018&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=MT3ST6iEFMiA8wOUlpGCAw 4.  Looks like Tragopogon dubius. https://www.google.co.uk/search?sugexp=chrome,mod%3D3&q=tragopogon+dubius&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=9D3ST47hIobi8QPGxNyfAw&biw=1536&bih=776&sei=9z3ST9zUAsqI8gP3g_S4Aw

• 08/06/2012 08:32 PM

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  Hedgelayer Location: Nottinghamshire Joined on: 02 Jun 2012 Posts: 22

  Reply | Contact  Thanks for the reply, Silver Surfer. 1 and 2: Yes, I think you're right there. 3: Yes, possibly - I was thinking Viburnum farreri, which is one of the parents of your suggestion. I probably need to see it in winter, or find out exactly what fruit it bears. 4: I was thinking Tragopogon pratensis, but I think you're right.   Thanks for your help, especially for the first one. Now i can find out how to prune it properly!

• 08/06/2012 09:42 PM

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  Silver surfer Location: South Wales. U.K. Joined on: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,396

  Reply | Contact 3. There are several winter flowering Viburnums. They all look rather similar. V. x bodnantense being the most common in gardens. (Probably!) Some even have white flowers.  But you are right ...Viburnum farreri sounds a good possibility to me. https://www.google.co.uk/search?sugexp=chrome,mod%3D3&q=tragopogon+dubius&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=9D3ST47hIobi8QPGxNyfAw&biw=1536&bih=776&sei=9z3ST9zUAsqI8gP3g_S4Aw

• 08/06/2012 09:42 PM	In reply to
  Location: Joined on: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2,376	Reply | Contact I would have said the first picture is.  Solanum pictum.  However my friend S.S is probably correct.  If so.  I'd best change the label on my specimum. Mike.

• 08/06/2012 09:48 PM

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  Silver surfer Location: South Wales. U.K. Joined on: 09 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,396

  Reply | Contact Mike, I cannot find anything on www for Solanum pictum. However, the flowers of  Solanum are all kind of similar... see https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&cp=6&gs_id=o&xhr=t&q=solanum&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1536&bih=776&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=8WTST9O8Goz58QP6x8yxAw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanum The Buddleja alternifolia above, grows into a very tall straggly shrub. The flowers are in sort of balls down the branches made up of lots of individual flowers. The weight seems to make the branches bow down, in a lax manner.

• 08/06/2012 10:04 PM	In reply to
  Margaretelisabeth Location: United Kingdom Joined on: 18 Mar 2012 Posts: 7	Reply | Contact I am in agreement with silver surfer on this one Solanum flowers are a little different.

• 08/06/2012 11:23 PM	In reply to
  Location: Joined on: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2,376	Reply | Contact Fair do's. This is one of those rare occassions that the nursrymans labels can and often confuse us..  However the leaf form etc does seem to point in a certain direction.  Never mind.  It's all food for thought. Mike.