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Saving an established Clematis from being unfairly hacked :(

Last post 06-06-2012 5:45 PM by @courtyardgarden. 3 replies.

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  • 01/06/2012 06:02 PM
    • Klis
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    Hi all, My dad and I are in the process of repainting the house. We live in a Scandia Hus (House) which has a lot of wood on show, thus needs a new coating every three to four years. The last time it was properly painted was about 8 years ago lol Anyway, since that time a beautiful Clematis has rocketed in growth and spread quite dramatically across a pagola and up the roof. Not only has this cut off access for painting, my dad also feels that its getting into crevasses and uplifting the tiles. It has in fact climbed through the tiling and into the attic - However, I believe that its not actually doing any damage, although he reckons it is! Now, he wants to totally rip the Clematis off! :| - He says that its damaging the house and the cost of repair would be extortionate! My mum is virtually in tears and I would like to find a constructive alternative that makes everyone happy. So, how can I save it? Do you think it would be possible to move or shift the mass, perhaps even fold it over? I guess that we would need to carefully pry the plants vines off where it has 'tied/stuck/clamped' itself down? Would this process kill or irreparably damage the plant? I suppose we would prefer to sacrifice parts then lose the entire body. I was then thinking that after painting, we could staple down some form of plastic sheeting that would halt the vines access into the attack and other crevasses - Is this heard of and do you reckon it could work? Does anyone perhaps have some thoughts on this that I haven't mentioned or suggested? Unfortunately my dad doesn't see the garden in the same light as my mum and I, as you can see in the image below, the day before yesterday he hacked away at a bush which he thought was a fire hazard. And rather then cautiously cutting back, he liberally destroyed a cozy corner that we once had. This action also killed 1/4 of the same Clematis that has spread up onto another tree - the flowers have already closed and look frail :'( http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h110/kliskey/IMG_0569.jpg [Area behind the BBQ] http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h110/kliskey/IMG_0577.jpg [Area now dieing furthest away on the tree - image taken from upstairs] http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h110/kliskey/IMG_0576.jpg [same as above and where it goes under the tiles] http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h110/kliskey/IMG_0571.jpg [side of the house] http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h110/kliskey/IMG_0570.jpg [canopy] http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h110/kliskey/IMG_0574.jpg [from the garden] The plant has been growing there for 18 years and was planted when my parents moved in. Its almost as old as I am and therefor in my memory its always been there Thus to see it go under these circumstances when it could be prevented would be a disaster - More so it would be a disaster for our garden which would look bare with out the character that the old vines and flowering mass above add. All ideas welcome and thank you for taking the time to read this tome lol :)

  • 04/06/2012 11:54 PM
    • AlexS
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    Hi Klis,

    It can be very difficult to do the right thing when you have a beautiful, but invasive, plant to deal with! Here's a few thoughts:

    1. your father is right that a clematis montana, which is what this is, can and will do damage to a roof, lifting and displacing tiles. The stems get thicker every year, and a stem under a tile will thicken and push it out of place. Having spent a large sum last winter removing clematis from the front of our tile-clad house, replacing damaged battens and rehanging tiles, I've got rid of that clematis even though it looked glorious when in flower. 

    2. You can cut the clematis back quite hard, removing everything on the house, and keep the part that is on the pergola.  In future keep it confined to the pergola or perhaps let it scramble through trees. Cut it back as soon as possible after flowering, because it will flower next year on growth made this year. You will inevitably have fewer flowers next year. 

    3. If you just try to fold back such a huge mass of clematis I think you'd end up with a great ugly mess.  You could try it, but you'll probably end up having to cut large lumps off anyway, and once you've started trying to rearrange it you'll find it much harder to cut only what you want to cut. 

    4. I don't know how you could stop the tendrils of the clematis getting into the attic again - they find the tiniest crevice and exploit any gap.  In my view you'd be better keeping it off the roof in future.

    Sorry if this isn't what you want to hear!  However, once the job is done and the clematis has settled down, it won't be the disaster you fear. Good luck with it.

     

    Alex
  • 05/06/2012 09:16 PM
    • Phot's-Moll
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     I think cutting it back hard would be better than trying to fold it over to save it - better for the plant and it will look better too. As AlexS says, you'll just get a tangled mess if you try to save it. This approach has the benefit of pacifying your dad!

    The clematis should start growing back quite quickly and should then be cut back each year after flowering to stop it spreading where it isn't wanted.

    Whether you think you can do a thing, or think you cannot, you are right.
  • 06/06/2012 05:45 PM
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    We had a clematis montana climbing over a photinia so densely that the photinia was really suffering.  We cut it down to about chest height last summer, and already this year it has its tendrils back in the photinia (though less aggressively than before!) and flowered really beautifully as usual, if on a slightly smaller scale.

    These plants are so strong, I think to manage them you really have to cut them back quite hard every few years anyway - so if I were you I would just bite the bulllet.

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