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Last post 29-02-2012 9:25 PM by Snark. 4 replies.

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  • 27/02/2012 01:07 PM
    • ado
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    • 27 Feb 2012
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    Hi there, i would appreciate some help and advice on growing an apple tree in my back garden.  i went to a nursery at the weekend and bought a coxs orange pippin tree, it is about 5ft tall, grown in a container. It is self fertile variety which is what we were after. Dug hole as advised and planted in lawn, all good.

    Then i looked on net for advice on it and mostly was bad news really. apparently quite hard for an amateur like me to grow and very susceptible to lots of diseases. i really just want something as a tree for the garden, without hassle of chemicals and spraying lots. As coxs are my faves, I was just wondering if anyone has any thoughts/experience on these trees, or should i go back to the start and plant a 'sunset' which seems to be the coming up as being a cox variety with better disease resistance.

     Sorry if this is a ramble, hope someone can help. Thankyou.

  • 27/02/2012 01:45 PM
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    Hi Ado, don't worry, Cox is not impossible to grow.  It does depend a bit on where you live though - it does better in the drier east of the UK.  Having said that, Sunset, or Fiesta, are almost as good as Cox and more reliable and easier to grow in a no-spray regime. But give it a go, you might not always get bumper crops, but the apples should be wonderful.

    www.orangepippintrees.co.uk
  • 28/02/2012 04:53 PM
    • Julie
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    Apple trees I've come across have been pretty tough. I think as them as quite a resilient tree.

  • 28/02/2012 09:36 PM
    • NRB
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    Cox isn't easy to grow and has more than its fair share of problems.....but......To some extent it depends on whether there are any other diseased trees nearby to act as a source of infection. If you have a commercial orchard of Cox's nearby (or a diseased Cox tree in a nearby garden), you have no hope of avoiding the diseases blowing on the wind.

    Cox prefers a warm, fairly dry climate. I also have a suspicion that it performs better and has a better chance of being a little healthier when on a soil of a slightly higher pH than is usually considered "ideal" for apples; pH 6.5-7.5, rather than the usual pH 6.0-7.0. In a cool location, on a cold, wet, heavy, acid soil it will struggle.

    I would also pay attention to the rootstock which it is grafted to, and how that rootstock will interact with the pH, depth, fertility and moisture-retention of your soil. A good soil, or a stronger rootstock is better able to supply the tree with what it needs, so is likely to be a little healthier - assuming that your soil won't make the tree get too large.

    If you opt to replace your tree, I would suggest looking at some of the relatively less common types. The less a variety is grown, the less chance the diseases have to find ways to get past any disease resistance. Eventually, if grown country-wide, any variety, no matter how resistant, will eventually lose its resistance as the diseases find ways around its resistance.

    Also, if you replace the tree, you may have only a limited selection available to you, so if you want alternates, it might be better to list what you have to choose from.

  • 29/02/2012 09:25 PM
    • Snark
    • Suffolk
    • 12 Jan 2011
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    All good advice.We have several varieties of apple in our dry,alkaline Suffolk garden.Sadly the cox is disease prone although it seems to be getting a bit better with age-perhaps its roots are better established making it tougher but we are talking about waiting 20 years here! My all time best tree - no trouble,no pests and diseases,crops every year ie not biennial is Lord Derby.Good eater, I think not unlike cox in taste,good cooker -makes great pies and crumbles,good dried and juices ok as well .Most years they store until Easter. We certainly have edible ones in the shed now except where the mice have nibbled them.If I only had space for one this would be it but with a single tree keep an eye on availability of local pollinators. Even so called self fertiles do better with a friend within bee range.

    For the Snark was a boojum you see