Skip navigation.

Is 42 too old to change career?

Last post 28-07-2011 6:59 PM by debbied. 12 replies.

Page 1 of 1 (13 items)

  • 27/07/2011 10:01 AM
    • -Tracy-
    • Suffolk
    • 27 Jul 2011
    • 3
    Not Ranked
    Reply | Contact

    Hi All

    I have been looking at this forum for some time but this is my first post so I hope you will be able to help me.  As the subject suggests, I am looking for your honest response as to whether 42 is too old for a career change into gardening. 

    I am very interested in doing the RHS Level 2 courses with the aim of starting my own business but I have some concerns.  Currently I work in an office and have done all of my career but to be honest I have totally had enough of it, it bores me silly and I have gone as far as I can go in my position so career prospects whether I stay in this job or move companies are never going to be any better than they are now and the thought of doing this job for the rest of my working life is just too much to bear.  I love everything gardening but I will confess I am a complete novice which is why I thought it would be good to get some courses under my belt to give me the knowledge but also the confidence to do this. 

    I am however concerned that I have left it too late.  I am worried that working in the office has softened me you could say to the perils of our weather conditions, air conditioning in summer and heating in winter so I know that it will be a big shock to the system but my main worry is that I will not physically be able to do the work.  General gardening no problem but it's more if someone wants a complete garden clearance, digging out roots etc, it may sound feeble but what if I physically couldn't do it. 

    It may sound as though I am already doubting my ability and talking myself out of this but believe me, I would love to do this as a career, even if it was just to work in a nursery or something but my own business is ultimately where I want to go.  Not employing loads of people, just me on my own.

    Sorry for such a long post but if anyone out there could offer me some good advice, it would be greatly received and very much appreciated.

    Many thanks,  Tracy

  • 27/07/2011 10:46 AM
    • Linnea
    • 13 Jan 2007
    • 53
    Top 150 Contributor
    Reply | Contact

    So long as you explain what you will and won't do to customers before you take on the job there should be no issue. I always tell my customers that if it requires going up a ladder then they'll have to find someone else (nice and politely of course!) most are understanding and causes no issue, if they get angry over it then they're not the right customer for me and I'm not the right gardener for them

    one of the joys of being self employed is that you don't HAVE to do anything you don't want to do. down side is no work no pay

    Do I think 42 is too old to swap careers? absolutely not!

    Do you NEED to take the RHS course to start the business? no, it helps but you'll still get work even without it.

    Does the weather influence work? yes but you learn to cope, doing things in shade when it's too hot, taking breaks if really heavy rain/snow. learn to dress accoriding to expected weather but take alternatives with you

     hope that helps

     

  • 27/07/2011 11:50 AM
    • Scott
    • South Yorkshire
    • 20 Oct 2010
    • 138
    Top 75 Contributor
    Reply | Contact

    Go for it.... End of the day you have to be happy in your work and lets face it, there is no more rewarding job.. Firstly you need to think what services you are willing and can offer. You do not have to completely finish you current job. Get some work in you spare time. Start by advertising in local shop windows, local forums and even print a few leaflets off and target OAP housing areas. You will be surprised to how fast you get jobs by word of mouth after you have secured a few positions. I currently work full time in a Garden Centre but have 22 gardens which i maintain on a regular basis, plus the tree work i do. Quite a few of the gardens i do are for OAP's who can't physically do it anymore. Mainly weeding and a bit of grass cutting. You will find that these OAP's have probably been very keen gardeners in the past and most of the time you will stand around chatting. I think they just appreciate a bit of company than actually having the garden done. You could probably do this quite easily, and see how the jobs pick up before you leave your current job. If you want to take on bigger jobs, you really need to look into getting some practical machine training through the NPTC and Lantra to back up your RHS level 2. These courses are not cheap but are a legal requirement and without them, getting any kind of liability or business insurance goes out of the window. Good luck and let us know how you get on...

  • 27/07/2011 11:50 AM
    • Hortaddict
    • Oxon/Warks/Worcs
    • 10 Jul 2008
    • 39
    Top 200 Contributor
    Reply | Contact

     Dear Tracy,

    Two different questions - is 42 too old to change careers? Not at all.( Well, I would say that - I changed to horticulture at that age!)

    Loads of people come to horticulture as a profession after another career, and they have many advantages over the students who've gone from school into full-time horticultural education:  common sense and maturity, realism from their experience of the working world,  patience ( to deal with tetchy, changeable clients) and most of all an enthusiasm for gardening and plants.  Some young people I've taught have the enthusiasm, but the rest they tend to develop quite slowly  once they set out on their own! 

    The second  question is whether physically you are going to be able to do this, once you've got the knowledge and the confidence. I think the answer to that is, really it depends on what you want to do in horticulture. Working in a nursery propagating plants, or in a garden centre displaying them, selling them and most of all giving good advice to customers -  both of these are less physically demanding compared to general garden maintenance work, though anyone who's done the jobs will tell you about back pain, RSI and carpal tunnel syndrome.( And don't even THINK about the joy of Christmas in the garden centre!) 

    If you want to set up your own business maintaining gardens, one option would be to test out how you would handle this by working initially for one of the bigger maintenance franchises, where you wouldn't be working alone and where your knowledge of things like pruning would be paired with someone else's ability to lift the lawnmower into the back of a truck. 

    However I think the answer is not to think of yourself as totally isolated.

    Use the opportunity for networking when you study  - easiest if it's in a college, but with many of the distance learners there's an opportunity to contact other students and get to know them. Or use the Facebook group you'll find from this forum, if you are into that sort of thing; there is The Garden Network online as well.

    There's nothing unusual about bringing in other people to do parts of a large job, like clearing a garden   - if your speciality is plants and plant maintenance and you get to know someone reasonably local who's a good landscaper, or someone else who has chainsaw training, you will be able to sub-contract that part of the work for an agreed price, or even just an informal 'I'll find you suitable plants to go round the pond you're building for x, and come and plant them, if you bring your mattock and spend a morning on this border with me'. 

    Be confident in what you can do, and tell your customers what you will 'organise'  instead. You don't have to do one-off labouring work, or trim high hedges, if it isn't your main business. Muscles for labouring jobs can be hired and for some work like tree maintenance you'd need a specialist with the right insurance in place anyway.  Your customers will respect your knowledge and they should take your advice!

    There are so many different aspects to gardening as a career; go for it! 

    J
  • 27/07/2011 12:49 PM
    • miranda
    • Oxfordshire
    • 17 Nov 2004
    • 4,081
    Top 10 Contributor
    Reply | Contact

    Agree with what others have said here - 42 is certainly not too old to change career and take up gardening. I did and am very glad! Compare spending your day enclosed in a stuffy room, possibly doing something unbearably dull, with being outside in a fresh breeze, caring for growing things and with bird song as the background music - you're actually being paid for enjoying yourself! And you get to wear what you want, too.

    Whilst not essential, the RHS Level 2 is a fantastic course and will teach you a great deal, not just about plant varieties, but also some useful plant biology, which will be a great help in identifying all manner of plant problems. You'll also meet some very nice people along the way.

    With you having worked in an office so far and wondering if you're physically up to it, start slowly and gradually build up your fitness and strength; you can do this in your own garden and learn as you do it. Find a pace of work that feels comfortable and stick to it - you don't need to rush about in order to get a lot done and rushing is more likely to cause injury if you're not used to physical work. I learned a few painful lessons in trying to do too much, too fast and found it's not worth it. I call my pace 'plodding' - it may not be the fastest, but I can keep it going for many hours without tiring and get vast amounts done. As for cold/rain/heat, you do get used to it and, as long as you're properly dressed, you'll be fine.

    As Linnea said, if someone isn't right, then don't work for them. Same with the gardens, there's no fun in working in a garden that you don't like. You'll find some really decent people out there who are looking for someone just like you, people who care about their gardens, but are too busy or infirm to handle them on their own. Working for people you like and respect, in gardens that are genuinely cared about, is a great pleasure and makes it worth getting up in the morning for. Go for it!

  • 27/07/2011 01:16 PM
    • Scott
    • South Yorkshire
    • 20 Oct 2010
    • 138
    Top 75 Contributor
    Reply | Contact

    Go for it, you will not regret it, trust me... Lots of good advice on here for you. Good Luck.. Pity we live a few hundred miles apart. I really could have thrown lots of small jobs your way that i have had to turn down due to time restraints. I could have also been on hand to help with the bigger jobs. Try and network with a few local trades people involved in the gardening sector (Landscaper, Tree Surgeon, Fencing Contractor, Shed Fitter). I have found if you all recommend each other and help each other, lots of job leads can be got from this kind of networking.

  • 27/07/2011 02:59 PM
    • -Tracy-
    • Suffolk
    • 27 Jul 2011
    • 3
    Not Ranked
    Reply | Contact

    Thanks Everyone, you have been excellent, I am so pleased that you have all been so encouraging and that my dream has not been shattered.

     Now for the hard work, I have just enrolled on the RHS Level 2 course with Learning Curve, I know that I don't need this qualification to start a business but I do want to have some idea of what I am doing and it would be nice to have some sort of qualification so that people will take me seriously or at least recognise that I do know what I am talking about.

    I think my plan will be to study hard and then perhaps put the wheels in motion to properly start next spring even if it is part time whilst keeping my current job until it properly kicks off.  Obviously I need to make a living out of this to cover mortgage etc so I really need to look at pricingas I will need to get this right from the start, I don't want to go in too cheap and risk never being able to put my prices and working like a maniac just to make ends meet if that makes sense.  So much to think about!!

    Yes it is a shame Scott that you live so far away, it would have been all  too easy to have found someone straight away who could have helped me with the big stuff but I will take your advice and try and network with people local to me to see if I can get some contacts.

    I am so excited by this, thank you all so very much for being so supportive.

  • 27/07/2011 07:03 PM
    • kaydee
    • Perthshire
    • 15 Feb 2009
    • 269
    Top 50 Contributor
    Reply | Contact

    I did exactly that at exactly your age. Agreed you do need some paper qualification though. There are plenty of jobbing landscape gardeners about who actually know very little about plants. If for example you can get a reputation for identifying weeds & can be trusted to do weeding through your clients' cherished borders you will gain a lot of credibility - & word gets around. Good Luck!

  • 27/07/2011 08:22 PM
    • 07 Nov 2006
    • 2,412
    is online
    Reply | Contact

    Change of career takes courage and not changing can be an excuse to become a victim? So do it! I know a nurse who changed career in her early forties for gardening and has really made a go of her business. Starting a business does not mean it will automatically be a success though. A very high percentage of first businesses fail. So I think you would be better to get your course done and then work for someone else for 2-3 years not only to learn your trade and the business side, but to make contacts and to see where the gap is that you could fill. Good luck to you.

  • 27/07/2011 09:12 PM
    Top 25 Contributor
    Reply | Contact

    Dear Tracy,

    What have you really got to lose? The rest of your working life in a dull job that grinds you down? Sounds like that debate is over before it started.

    You don't need to make obstacles for yourself - courses are great, go for them, but all you need to start earning a little money really soon are some cheap flyers and basic gardening kit. And working tax credits. Big Smile

    If you are as hot for this as you say you are, you can immerse yourself in gardening books, tv shows, internet resources and most of all the experience other local & online gardeners. Combined with access to people's real gardens, you'll be amazed at how quickly you learn enough to impress the socks off any average non-gardener-with-a-garden. Not that trying to impress people is the aim here, but it's still good for the ego.

    If you are a real novice, I am ordering you to get a copy of the Well Tempered Garden by the late, great Christopher Lloyd of Great Dixter. Do this now and devour it. Some of the details are out of date, but the logic and attitude behind it are timeless.

    Remember, growing plants can be hard work, but it's not difficult: plants do it all the time and they haven't even got brains. Most of gardening is about selectively killing plants or bits of plants, which is even simpler. Not to mention fun.

    www.ashridgetrees.co.uk
  • 28/07/2011 01:52 PM
    • debbied
    • lancashire
    • 27 Apr 2009
    • 10
    Not Ranked
    Reply | Contact

    Hi Tracy

    I am 3 years older than you but hoping to do the same thing. Until recently I was working as a nurse in a hospice and if it taught me one thing it is that life is far too short to waste doing something if your heart is not in it.   I have also just started doing the RHS level 2 with Learning curve so if you want to compare notes or just have a moan about not understanding things then just let me know. I'm not sure quite what area I would like to work in just that it has to be something that involves plants!  Good luck with your plans and let us know how you get on.

  • 28/07/2011 03:28 PM
    • -Tracy-
    • Suffolk
    • 27 Jul 2011
    • 3
    Not Ranked
    Reply | Contact

    Thanks again to everyone that has answered your input is so helpful.

    I will have a look at getting the Well Tempered Garden as suggested, I think it could prove very handy so thanks for the recommendation.  I think once I have done the course I will have more of an idea what exactly it is that I want to do but my ultimate aim is to run my own business, I have many ideas but we shall see how it all works out.

     Debbied - are you doing the online version of the course?  I signed up and got the first part yesterday, I have had a bit of a read, only briefly I must add but already I am lost, the whole thing about plant names and groupings is a complete mystery to me and lets not even go there with the pronounciations, how on earth do people actually remember these let alone say them??  But yes I would love to compare notes with you, it might help us both knowing there is someone going through exactly the same thing so more than happy to keep in touch.  You are so right about life being too short as well and this is one of the reasons I want to do this, I just don't want to look back later in life and think "what if".  My wonderful mum died at the young age of 48 and as I get older I am becoming more and more aware of the fact that this is not a dress rehearsal and this is our only chance, so well done to the both of us and everyone else in the same boat for recognising this and doing something about it.

     

  • 28/07/2011 06:59 PM
    • debbied
    • lancashire
    • 27 Apr 2009
    • 10
    Not Ranked
    Reply | Contact

    Hi Tracey, I am doing the 'paper version' but only got the first part a couple of weeks ago so haven't really done much yet.  I know what you mean about the plant names and stuff being confusing, its the biology bit that baffles me a bit, was never much good at science at school.  I probably won't get much done over the school holidays with the kids being under feet but hopefully will get stuck in properly in Sept.  I will send you my email address so that we can keep in touch and give each other a bit of support or encouragement.