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Last post 24-10-2010 9:56 AM by Digger. 14 replies.

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  • 24/08/2010 09:35 AM
    • coffee
    • west midlands
    • 11 Jul 2010
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    Hope I ve put this in the right place  

    Hi a freind asked me if I knew  about this product and where  mostly could I get it as she has tried many shops in vain so I said maybe someone on the forum might know

    ,Its a product that kills slugs only  but will not effect birds if it eats the snail or slug ? she said  you put it in water    thanks coffeex

  • 24/08/2010 09:57 AM
    • Nigel
    • Paignton
    • 27 May 2008
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     Hi

    Sounds like it could be Nemasys, which is a nematode slug killer that you water on from a watering can. Search for Nemasys on the web to find suppliers. I get mine by mail order from Green Gardener.

    Nigel

  • 24/08/2010 04:02 PM
    • Susiq
    • Northumberland
    • 16 Feb 2008
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    Agree with Nigel - I use nematodes, they are quite expensive but very effective. Just so you are aware they do not kill snails - only slugs! Most mail order firms sell them, but take note -  there is a 'use by' date on the box and they have to be kept in the fridge once you've received them, I didn't realise that the first time, as it was only in the small print on the box!

  • 24/08/2010 05:19 PM
    • sue1002
    • Ipswich, Suffolk
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     I agree with both Nigel and Susiq and would like to add that depending on where you live in the UK, it might not be worth using them this year - you would probably be wasting your money as a minimum temperature of 10°C is needed and it won't be too long now before the night time temperatures start dropping below that figure.

    sue1002
  • 24/08/2010 08:45 PM
    • jon jon
    • stratford on avon
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    A  product based on ferric phosphate called Advanced slug killer ,750grms £6-95available at The organic gardening catalogue I  hav`nt .used it ,says only kills slugs & snails jon

  • 30/08/2010 10:10 AM
    • coffee
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    thanks nigel , susqi ,susie and jon l passed on to my freind coffeexBig Smile

  • 02/09/2010 08:53 PM
    • Phot's-Moll
    • The sunny South coast.
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     I use the Advanced slug killer which is said to be OK for organic gardeners (although I'm not strictly organic, just like my veggies without too many chemicals)

    They seem to work just as well as other slug pellets, although in a slightly different way - you won't see dead slugs and snails and loads of slime as with the traditional type. They still work in damp weather which is a bonus.

    http://patsysplot.blogspot.co.uk/
  • 03/09/2010 12:50 PM
    • asj
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    I use this too, because a) it works and b) it is safe to use around pets.  I can get it at my local garden centres, and I think quite a lot of the GCs stock the Growing Success brand now.

    asj - War on slugs and snails!
  • 03/09/2010 08:35 PM
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     I've also used Advanced slug kille - it's organic, but somehow I still don't feel comfortable with it and use only if I'm absolutely at the end of my tether.  It may not kill birds/mammals if eaten, but it cannot be good for them either.Still try hide them if you are using them in the garden.

    What about slug/snail traps? Or try attract this SUPER Advanced slug killer:

     

    Is that a leaf or is he smoking something he shouldn't be!

  • 21/10/2010 05:15 PM
    • Akira
    • 15 Jun 2010
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    It does indeed sound like "Nemaslug" nematodes - parasites of slugs and snails that live in the soil & that you water into the ground. These can be excellent in small gardens but are impractical over large areas, but, as ever with slugs and snails, it's worth looking at a range of options and figuring out which is best for your situation. There are two types of slug pellets out there - ones based on Metaldehyde and Methiocarb which are potentially lethal to pets, wildlife, children etc. - and Ferramol's Advanced Slug Killer Organic slug pellets which are based on Ferrous Phosphate - which is a form of iron. These last ones are considered to be "organic" because they are based on a naturally and widely occurring substance (iron) which is not supposed to be harmful to anything aside from slugs and snails. Having said that iron can cause acute liver damage and death in mammals in even moderate doses, so there must still be a risk attached to these too. I read a post on another forum about a garden hedgehog that was excreting turquoise droppings due to the excessive number of slug pellets it had eaten. Though this is what the Hedgehog Preservation Society says: "Although hedgehogs may not necessarily eat the pellets, they are very likely to eat the poisoned slugs and snails and, although these may not be lethal to hedgehogs, they may cause serious internal damage. If you must use slug pellets, put them inside pieces of pipe or under stone slabs where hedgehogs can't get at them. We believe, however, that a "beer-trap" (i.e. a pot of stale beer sunk in the ground) is an equally effective way of killing slugs. In any case, as an extra precaution, all dead slugs should be regularly removed." Metal (Iron or Aluminium) based pellets are at least as effective as metaldehyde in terms of dispatching slugs, so there's no need to use something as toxic and indiscriminate in it's actions these days. If you don't want to use pellets there are all sorts of other options depending on how large an area you need to protect. Depending on the size of area/plants that you need to protect barriers can be extremely effective and are much more permanent than any pellets particularly during wet weather. Spiky things like crushed eggshells, old scourers and sharp gravel are certainly effective. Ecocharlie recycled ceramic shard work even better since they absorb the mucous and stop the slugs getting across at all, as well as being spiky. You can also use copper bands which give them a tiny electric shock, and placing traps - beer traps, as above, or just pieces of wood, stone, card or carpet that act as shelters - outside the barriers will allow you to collect them in the day time.

  • 22/10/2010 07:49 AM
    • Pesty
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    Ferric phosphate  is also available as - Growing Success Advanced Slug Killer (pellets),      Bayer Organic Slug Bait (pellets), Vitax Slug Death XL (pellets) and aluminium sulphate as Doff Slug Attack (granules).

     

    The nematodes work in theory against snails, but in practice as snails don’t spend time in the soil so they do not come into contact with them.

     

    When using copper, crushed minerals, etc be aware that slugs also travel under ground.

     

    Copper has long been known to have a irritant and even toxic effect on slugs and snails, rather than an electric shock. In laboratory trials it has been found that both copper impregnated matting and copper foil repelled slugs with a 80-90% efficiency, although do not result in slug mortality. The effect of copper products varies with the species of slug tested and the width of the barrier. The width of the barrier should be greater than slug length. However these experiments were carried out under laboratory conditions with freshly brought products. In the garden situation it is important to keep copper strips free from debris if they are to remain effective. – the debris bit goes for any barrier.

     

    Slugs and snails will easily go over sharp objects, those barriers that absorb moisture from the slugs are more likely to work, but need to be kept dry and free of debris.

     

    When using beer traps take care they are not catching all your ground beetles too – many species of ground beetle eat slugs/snails, vine weevil larvae, caterpillars etc. Ground beetles themselves are food for hedgehogs etc.

      

    I wonder if the Hedgehog preservation society is aware of this research:

     Gemmeke H . 1996.  Effects of metaldehyde and methiocarb-poisoned slugs on hedgehogs. Mitteilungen aus der Biologischen Bundesanstalt fur Land und Forstwirstchaft Berlin Dahlem  no. 317 p. 185-194    Abstract  ‘The use of pellets containing metaldehyde to control slug populations on arable land involves the possibility that hedgehogs may come into contact with poisoned slugs or with pellets directly. The aim of this study is to determine whether hedgehogs kept in an enclosure feed on slugs treated with metaldehyde, and if so, display signs of poisoning. Of the six hedgehogs used, one consumed none, and one 12 of the slugs. The other four hedgehogs ate all or nearly all of the 200 treated slugs. Neither symptoms of metaldehyde poisoning or behavioural disorders were detected in any of the hedgehogs. All hedgehogs survived the study without negative effects and were released back into the wild in a good state of health to the place from where they were originally captured. The results demonstrate the following: some hedgehogs eat dead slugs either reluctantly or not at all, some hedgehogs eat metaldehyde-treated slugs in large numbers, healthy adult hedgehogs can consume up to 200 treated slugs without displaying signs of poisoning. The risk of secondary poisoning in hedgehogs due to the use of slug pellets treated with metaldehyde can be judged to be very low.’ 

     

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  • 22/10/2010 12:11 PM
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    "kills slugs only  but will not effect birds if it eats the snail or slug ...  you put it in water"

    I think it's a saucepan. Big Smile

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  • 22/10/2010 04:43 PM
    • coffee
    • west midlands
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    soz hedge folk might slug killer in water  but I would'nt use a saucepan Big Smilecoffeex

  • 22/10/2010 10:31 PM
    • Scott
    • South Yorkshire
    • 20 Oct 2010
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    I have been using this product on a trial at work. http://slug-gone.com/ Slug gone is 100% organic and my hostas and lettuces have not been touched all year. Give it a try...

  • 24/10/2010 09:56 AM
    • Digger
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    • 18 Jul 2005
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    This sounds like a job for the "barrier of death", watch out I shall be posting instructions for a solar powered one soon enough.

    digger Devil Sage of the fells