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Last post 27-10-2009 1:04 PM by sallya42. 13 replies.

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  • 10/10/2009 09:42 AM
    • Roundelder
    • NW Cumbria
    • 15 Apr 2009
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    I would appreciate any tips or advice concerning the best product to use to disinfect my 18'6" x 6'6" Aluminium & Toughened glass greenhouse. Thanks Smile

     

     

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  • 10/10/2009 11:10 AM
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    I use a dilute solution of Jeyes fluid, inside and out, leave it a couple of days, then rinse thoroughly.

    I also clean all my bamboo canes, plant pots, tools, equipment etc with this.

    Just follow the instructions on the tin.

  • 10/10/2009 02:25 PM
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    I use a hydrogen peroxide disnfectant as it is easy and safe to use, has no odour and is non-polluting unlike tar oil bases materials such as Jeyes Fluid: http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/pd4_ANIM-MED_DISINFECT_25864_DISINFECTANT-VIRKON-S-SACH-50G.htm Boggy

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  • 10/10/2009 04:46 PM
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    http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/coshh/25864.pdf

    ANTEC VIRKON S Page 1 of 7 HSD/36I ANTEC VIRKON S

    SAFETY DATA SHEET HSD/36I

    (1) IDENTIFICATION OF THE SUBSTANCE/PREPARATION AND COMPANY

    Name: Antec Virkon S (Powder as supplied)

    Supplier: Antec International Limited

    Windham Road

    Chilton Industrial Estate

    Sudbury

    Suffolk

    CO10 2XD

    Tel: 44-(0)1787-377305

    Fax: 44-(0)1787-310846

    _______________________________________________________________________________

    (2)
    COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
    Composition: A blend of an inorganic peroxygen compound, inorganic salts, organic acid, anionic detergent, fragrance and dye.

    Chemical

    % Concentration

    Classification

    CAS

    Exposure

    Pentapotassium bis(peroxymonosulphate) bis(sulphate)

    <50

    C;R34. Xn;R22

    R52

    70693-62-8

    None assigned

    Sulphamidic acid

    5 - 10

    Xi;R36/38

    R52/53

    5329-14-6

    None assigned

    Sodium dodecylbenzenesulfonate

    5 - 15

    Xn;R22

    Xi;R36/38

    25155-30-0

    None assigned

    Dipotassium peroxodisulphate

    <2%

    O; R8

    Xn; R22

    Xi; R36/37/38

    R42/43

    7727-21-1

    OES 1mg.m-3 8 hour TWA ref. period.

     

    (4) FIRST AID MEASURES

    Exposure Route

    Symptom

    Treatment

    INHALATION

    Irritation to nose, throat, lungs, respiratory tract.

    Remove to fresh air. If symptoms of coughing, choking or wheezing prove troublesome, or recovery is not rapid, seek medical attention.

    SKIN CONTACT

    May cause irritation, especially under moist conditions.

    Drench skin with plenty of water. Remove contaminated clothing. If irritation persists after rinsing with water, consult a medical advisor.

    EYE CONTACT

    Strong irritation, corrosion.

    Rinse thoroughly with clean water or buffered eye wash for at least 15 minutes. Obtain medical attention.

    INGESTION

    May cause severe irritation to mouth, throat, digestive tract and stomach.

    Do NOT induce vomiting. Drink plenty of water (or milk) if conscious. Obtain immediate medical attention

    (7) HANDLING AND STORING

    Precautions

    during handling:
    Handle with sufficient care to prevent dust build up.

    The use of L.E.V. may be required when handling the product supplied in bulk quantities.

    Wear protective clothing. (see section 8).

    Where significant dust formation occurs (e.g. when handling bulk quantities) the use of a suitable dust mask may be required (see section 8).

    Storage: Keep containers tightly sealed and avoid coming into contact with moisture during storage. Keep away from combustible material.

    Avoid contamination of product.

    Virkon S 1% solution: Store in clean loosely capped plastic containers at normal temperatures away from direct sunlight. Do not allow to freeze. Discard solution either once the colour is lost, or after 7 days from date of preparation.

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    (8)
    EXPOSURE CONTROLS/PERSONAL PROTECTION

    Engineering

    measures: Appropriate Local Exhaust Ventilation (L.E.V.) is necessary for handling the product in situations where dust formation is a problem ie. product in bulk quantities. Not normally necessary for preparation of solutions from 50g, 2.5kg, 1kg and 5kg packs.

    Control

    Parameters:
    Respirable dusts - 10mg/m3 8 hr T.W.A. (OES EH40 2002).

    Potassium persulphate – 1mg.m3 8hr T.W.A (OES EH40 2002).

    Personal Protection

    Respiratory:
    Powder Concentrate:

    Where necessary, dust mask for fine particles (eg. 3M Type 8710).

    Diluted Product:

    When working in mists of Virkon S (diluted in conjunction with Virkon S Fog Enhancer), respiratory protection in the form of a type AP (organic vapour - particulate matter) filter is recommended (e.g Arco Filtermax face mask and A2P3 filter).

    Hand: Rubber gloves (eg. Marigold type G01R)

    Eye: Goggles or face-shield to BS EN166.

    Skin: Overalls may be required for dealing with large spills or when handling the product in large quantities.

    _______________________________________________________________________________

    ANTEC INTERNATIONAL LTD. EMERGENCY TELEPHONE NUMBER (UK) 01787 377305 ANTEC VIRKON S Page 4 of 7 HSD/36I

    (9) PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL PROPERTIES

    Appearance/

    Odour: Pink, free flowing powder with faint lemon odour.

    pH (1% solution,

    20oC):
    2.6

    Boiling point/

    Range: Decomposes on heating.

    Flash Point: Not applicable.

    Explosive

    properties: Not applicable.

    Oxidising

    properties: Not oxidising.

    Specific gravity: 1.07 approximately.

    Solubility

    (water at 20oC):
    Approximately 65g/litre.

    _______________________________________________________________________________

    (10)
    STABILITY AND REACTIVITY

    Stability: Stable under normal conditions.

    Conditions to

    avoid: Moisture ingress to the stored powder, which will cause rapid product degradation.

    Materials to

    avoid:
    Strong alkalis

    Salt (Sodium chloride)

    Combustible materials

    Hazardous

    decomposition

    products:
    Oxygen, Sulphur dioxide.

    Chlorine under certain extreme conditions if powder is allowed to become moist.

    _______________________________________________________________________________

    (11)
    TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION

    TEST DATA

    Acute oral toxicity:
    LD50 (Rat), 4123mg/kg

    Acute dermal

    toxicity: LD50 (Rat) 2200mg/kg

     

    irritation: Powder:

    Moderately irritating primary irritation index = 2.8

    Virkon S 1% solution:

    Non-irritating primary irritation index = 0

    Eye irritation: Powder:

    May cause eye damage

    Virkon S 1% solution:

    Non-irritating.

    Skin

    Sensitisation:
    Powder:

    Not sensitising (Guinea pig, Magnusson & Kligman Maximisation Method, and; Guinea pig, Modified Buehler method).

    Virkon S 1% solution:

    Not sensitising (Guinea pig, Magnusson & Kligman Maximisation Method).

    Human

    experience:
    The powder product is a strong eye irritant, irritant to skin and by inhalation of the dust.

    _______________________________________________________________________________

    (12)
    ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION

    Persistence and

    degradability: No data is available. However, based on evaluation of its components in accordance with 1999/45/EC, this product is not expected to display long term adverse effects in the aquatic environment.

    Bioaccumulation: Not noted.

    Aquatic

    toxicity:
    Harmful to aquatic organisms.

    _______________________________________________________________________________

    (13)
    DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONS

    Disposal of

    product: Dispose of as Special Waste in compliance with the Special Waste Regulations 1996. Observe local restrictions.

    Disposal of

    packaging:
    Dispose of in compliance with the Environmental Protection (Duty of Care) Regulations 1990.

    ____________________________________________

  • 10/10/2009 06:54 PM
    • David
    • Sevenoaks
    • 11 May 2009
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    This all very well and very comprehensive but is it as good as Mr Bogweevil's stuff which I know from experience to be super plus effective? The preparation you mention sound likes something would give you  what John Wayne reffered to as "Big C".

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  • 11/10/2009 07:40 AM
    • Nigel
    • Paignton
    • 27 May 2008
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     David

    It is the same as Mr Bogweevil's stuff and  headfullofbees has just uploaded the safety information for the concentrated product. When used as directed ie a 1% solution (50g in 5 litres of water) it is probably no more dangerous to use than Jeyes fluid diluted as per the instructions. However the diluted solution is going to be more environmentally friendly than the Jeyes fluid solution, due to Jeyes fluid being based on coal tar.

    Whichever you choose to use gloves (Marigolds or similar) should be used. Eye protection, if available, should be used, an eyeful of dilute Jeyes fluid is not pleasant. Swimming goggles or similar would work and even ordinary glasses will give some protection from splashes.

    I shall be using Jeyes fluid again this year as I have it available. If however the can has rotted then I will be looking at Mr Bogweevil's suggestion though cost will be a consideration.

    Nigel

  • 11/10/2009 09:03 AM
    • David
    • Sevenoaks
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    Nigel and Headfulofbees.
    I take your points. At first read the info looked horrific. I suppose if I had my cup of PG tips analysed with similar thoroughness I should have thrown it away!

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  • 11/10/2009 09:41 AM
    • Digger
    • Northern UK
    • 18 Jul 2005
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    Hmmmm Hello everybody, I think most cleaning agents will have something unpleasant in them. I used armillatox until it ran out now I use ordinary bleach.

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  • 11/10/2009 10:02 AM
    • Roundelder
    • NW Cumbria
    • 15 Apr 2009
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    Thanks for the info guys, pays your money takes your choice I guess.  My own OH said "What's the problem with just using a fairly weak bleach solution?" Smile  I should also bear in mind that everything was in pots etc. and the base is patio slabs, so we are unlikely to get a real build up of anything really nasty I suppose.

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  • 12/10/2009 02:02 PM
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    Bleach is quickly inactivated by organic matter and can harm clothing etc so it is poor choice.

     

    Boggy

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  • 24/10/2009 08:43 AM
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    If you're worried about using Jeyes fluid, then perhaps you may consider sodium metabisulphite solution.

    I sterilise the greehouse border with it. The sulphur is the killer, and it degrades very quickly in the soil after sterilisation. It is often added in extremely dilute form as a food and wine preservative, and those who make their own beer or wine will be well acquainted with it.

    The fumes which come off it are a little unpleasant, however.

  • 24/10/2009 03:47 PM
    • David
    • Sevenoaks
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    Is that the same as Milton Solution sometimes used to sterilize infants feeding equipment?

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  • 25/10/2009 10:55 AM
    • Roundelder
    • NW Cumbria
    • 15 Apr 2009
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    Milton is a sodium hypochlorite solution and I don't see any reason why you shouldn't use it instead, mind I wait with baited breath to be corrected  in this matter.

    http://www.securitydirect.co.uk/acatalog/Cleaning_Products.html

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  • 27/10/2009 01:04 PM
    • sallya42
    • Bristol
    • 05 Aug 2009
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     I used 50/50 white vinegar and water in a 1 litre spray bottle with a small squirt of washing up liquid.  I spread it on with a sponge floor mop, then hosed it down, following by a squeegie.  it worked a treat both inside and out.Dilute vinegar is harmless to plants and it leaves a streak free finish.

     

    Sallya42