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Last post 02-10-2009 3:02 PM by red yead. 20 replies.

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  • 23/07/2009 10:12 AM
    • David
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    I have been informed that this herbicide is to be banned from October 2009 and replaced by a product based on the extract of  the pelagonium species. I am sure I am one of the last to learn this but do the RHS publish on this excellent value website details of the latest comings and goings in the very fast moving world  of herbicide and pesticide developement?  I normally find out about such matters when a teenage assistant in the garden centre tells me " that was banned years ago Silly"

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  • 23/07/2009 11:02 AM
    • Digger
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    Oh dear! there should be some information on the main website about this type of thing,somewhere? why on eartth are they withdrawing glphosate? I know sodium chlorate is to be withdrawn but glyphosate is quite safe for users and the environment.

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  • 23/07/2009 12:17 PM
    • squirrel
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    Have a look here on the RHS website.

    Or here on the HSE website.

    Where di you hear about glyphosate being withdrawn? I can't find anything about it and would be really surprised if this is going to happen in the near future...

  • 23/07/2009 01:35 PM
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    Glyphosate not banned yet - banning world's favourite and best weedkiller would make big splash (sorry).

    Pelargonic acid is an organic acid that scorches foliage and is offered for use as contact weedkiller to kill annual weeds.  It also polishes off moss on patios etc.

     

    Boggy

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  • 23/07/2009 03:20 PM
    • Susiq
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    EEUUWHH Boggy - don't like your use of the word 'yet' at the end of the first sentence - do you actually know something we don't? You have kinda countered it by your second sentence I guess. Being selfish, I NEED all the glyph I can get, until the dreaded ground elder is done for!

  • 23/07/2009 03:53 PM
    • David
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     My source was the forum of another reputable garden website quoting a member of the ACP - the Advisory Committee on Pesticides.

    The article did seem very emphatic but you never know. I do really hope not but it does appear that Argentina is about to ban it. 


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  • 24/07/2009 01:22 PM
    • David
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     The source for my post has this morning added a reply from Defra on the subject...

    "Glyphosate was reviewed in the EU process gaining Annex 1 listing in 2001. Product containing this active have been re-registered for use. It is destined to be reviewed sometime after 2011. We have no knowledge of any Banning.  Possibly a product contaning it is to be commercialyl withdrawn by an approval holder."

    Funny language but it  is reassuring  for those of us who find it indespensible

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  • 24/07/2009 02:13 PM
    • Susiq
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    Phew! - Thanx for that info David, much appreciated and very relieved I have to say!

  • 24/07/2009 02:26 PM
    • Digger
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    Yes Glyphosate is excellent, I know some forum users don't approve of people using the concentrate that you mix yourself at home, but it's cheaper to buy as concentrate and I couldn't really do without it.

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  • 24/07/2009 06:39 PM
    • David
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     Susiq,

    I am pleased you are as pleased as I am. I do recall my horticulture tutor of a few years back stated that Convulus (bindweed) was a beautiful addition to any garden. I did accept what he said initially but I now spend most of my pension on Round -up to get rid of my neighbours national collection and which seems to consider it has a lifetime visa to gain access to my property

    If we lose Glysophate we will all end up in what Digger calls "Ernie's Field" which would be extremely disagreeable. I think I'd rather go down with this pig flu thing. Mind you I am told I am so old I am excused from contracting it. Probably had something similar 50 year ago.

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  • 24/07/2009 07:11 PM
    • bigsusan55
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     "neighbours national collection"

    Love it!  I found my neighbour putting in a supports for "this lovely little climber" that he had found on the boundary!

    Interestingly, I remember hearing a letter from someone on Gardeners Question time.  She lived in Iceland and said that she tried really hard to get our white convulvulus to grow in her garden, but without success.  A good case of weeds are only plants in the wrong places.

    The morning glory that I planted last year has self sown all around - to the extend that I have given away numerous plants this year and they still keep appearing.  I wonder whether we will every get to the stage, with global warming, that we consider this a menace?

    Big Susan

  • 24/07/2009 07:38 PM
    • David
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     That just confirms Bigsusan there is "now't so   q u e e r  as folk" as they used to say. I have had to spell out that word owing to the fact that this forums spellcheck prohibits me from writing "***"

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  • 24/07/2009 07:54 PM
    • Figwort
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     Bigsusan

    My botany lecturer at university told us that "A weed was a plant whose good attributes had not yet been discovered." 

    As for glyphosate - I don't think we're out of the woods yet. It was one of the pesticides due for review this spring and altho it's had a reprieve this time, there are some people out there who want to ban it. So fingers crossed - lobby your Euro MP and let's keep the only really good weedkiller we have left.

     

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  • 24/07/2009 08:07 PM
    • David
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     Surely, not more spam???

    I'm getting an addiction to Gaviscon.

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  • 24/07/2009 08:19 PM
    • Phot's-Moll
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     Bindweed is beautiful! I know it's a pain and I'm trying to weaken its grip on my allotment, but I still find the flowers attractive when the plant is growing somewhere I'm not responsible for weeding.

    Whether you think you can do a thing, or think you cannot, you are right.