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Last post 20-01-2009 6:10 PM by Digger. 29 replies.

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  • 05/01/2009 05:13 PM
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    • Digger
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    I have taken some time to consider your thoughts Ventnor, and whilst i understand that you feel that a hardcore of individuals dominate the forum thus deterring professional people from posting, I think that you are quite wrong, I have taken the time to account for the twelve most prolific forum contributors and I have to say whilst some are amateur gardeners others are indeed professional horticulturalists, perhaps the most prolific posters and contributors to the message board are keeping the on line community alive by posting here on a regular basis, also perhaps RHS members see it as their absoloute right to contribute to the forum especially since they are actively making financial contributions to the RHS? if someone wishes to make a point however irrelevant YOU may feel that the point being made is, it is entirely acceptable for the member to make that point, even if they are wrong, admin was contacted a little over twelve months ago with regard to the idle chat thread started by Mirand as it frequently contains non horticultural issues, and admin was quite happy to continue allowing the forum to thrive in this way, when you do cross paths with Bogweevil why not ask him if he is a professional?

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  • 17/01/2009 10:28 PM
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    I'm not a professional gardener - does that mean I'm not entitled to an opinion?

    When people ask for help and advice should we ignore them for fear they may feel bombarded by too many opinions?

     

    Whether you think you can do a thing, or think you cannot, you are right.
  • 17/01/2009 10:44 PM
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    Good question Phot's, but seemingly the professionals have been deterred from posting here? I don't think just professionals should be able to answer questions, like I said all members can join in professional or not, but I will vigourously dispute Ventnors claim because the facts speak for themselves, professionals do make regular posts on this board, so they must be in the rogues gallery or the dirty dozen?

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  • 17/01/2009 11:09 PM
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     They must. Come to think of it, there's at least one who is a little bit of a rogue ...

    Whether you think you can do a thing, or think you cannot, you are right.
  • 18/01/2009 12:19 PM
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    Now Now boys and girls lets calm down!

    I am a relative newcomer to this forum and what I have seen up to press I like!

    Personally I would not call myself a professional, an expert, or a gardener for that matter!

    I think of myself as a 'grower' and over the last forty years or or so I have gone to the professional, experts and good gardeners for advice some of which I have taken on board, some I have ignored (for what ever reason) and some of the information received I have modified to suit my situation.

    I think we all, expert & amateur alike, should be grateful for the technology we have around us today such as having forums like these to exchange ideas in.

    Years ago If I heard about something that I thought was worth trying, I would have to wait till the next season to try it, if it went wrong this meant I had to wait another season to ammend the problem/s! now I can put my thought out to people such as yourselves for opinions, on receipt of that opinion I can weigh up the pros & cons and act accordingly.

    Now with our combined knowledge I can shorten this process, which can only be a good thing.

    OK I am an RHS member that doesn't necessarily make me a better grower than some one who is not a member, or indeed, someone who has RHS qualifications. 

    I often found during my career, as I am sure many of you found, that many a qualified graduate who supposedly 'knew it all' could not 'apply' his/her knowledge to the task in hand so I often took, nay had to take the situation in to my own hands.

    So what is different here? I will take on board information from anyone on this forum if I think it is relavant or ignore it if I don't !

    Personally when I reply to a situation here it is 'my opinion' and it is up to the reader to decide whether it is acceptable or ignore it! I know I do when I read others peoples 'opinions'

    So lets dispense with the 'egotism' and get on what we all know best.......growing!!


      

  • 18/01/2009 01:28 PM
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    Tee Gee:

    So lets dispense with the 'egotism' and get on what we all know best.......growing!!

    Alas if it was only that simple, you see someone has has become irate about the lack of professionals posting on here, and I suspect that the person is themselves a professional in some sphere of horticulture, and they see the site as being dominated by a dozen folk, who will readily deride anyone with a differing opinion, most people know how to take advice, but i still can't see what problem Ventnor has, the dozen dominators are merely keeping the flow of the forum going, it's a point that does need discussing and bringing to conclusion, it would be rude to ignore Ventnors concerns

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  • 18/01/2009 01:54 PM
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    Tee Gee, your comment on technolgy is interesting. IfI'd been asked if technology was a good thing in gardening terms, I'd probably have thought of overpriced gadgets, gm crops and dangerous chemicls (none of which I like) but you're right that the kind of technology that helps us spread ideas, share experiences andmake new gardening friends is a huge advantage!

    Whether you think you can do a thing, or think you cannot, you are right.
  • 18/01/2009 04:19 PM
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    • Huddersfield
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    someone has has become irate about the lack of professionals

    Sorry to here that, but then again I have only been a short while.

    I am as I have said 'a grower' not a professional but in many respects I think I could hold my own with any of them as I am quite sure a few others on the forum could do.

    Let me put my credentials to you by letting you see my Allotments and garden along with my 'growing bible'  namely my website then you all can be the judge as to where I stand;

    My Allotments;

    http://www.thegardenersalmanac.co.uk/Slide%20Shows/Allotment/allotment.html

    My Garden in Winter & Spring;

    http://www.thegardenersalmanac.co.uk/Slide%20Shows/Garden%20Winter%20%20-%20Spring/garden%20winter%20%20-%20spring.html

    My Garden in Summer & Autumn;

    http://www.thegardenersalmanac.co.uk/Slide%20Shows/Garden%20Summer%20-%20Autumn/garden%20summer%20-%20autumn.htmlhttp:

    My Website; //www.thegardenersalmanac.co.uk/Indexes/index.htm

     I have tried to make these Url's linkable but can't so if you want to look in you will have to copy and paste the urls directly into your browser.

    To simplyfy this task connect to the 'website' url then click on photos and you will connect to the other urls.

    Sorry for this but as I said I am a grower not an IT expertBig Smile

  • 18/01/2009 04:36 PM
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    Hmmmn, I'm sure your credentials are fine, I don't have an opinion about amateurs or professionals posting here that's ventnors "baby", as I have said I am in possession of the facts ans several of the dozen most prolific contributors to the forum are what is described as professionals, to me it's a matter of total indifference,Hmm. i don't think people should get excited when they read two posts that differ in opinion, but Ventnor has apparently been upset by something or other, and I maintain that RHS members may well see it as, they have the absoloute right to contibute to this forum regardless of their experience, life is too short to waste any more on this nonsense

    digger Devil
  • 18/01/2009 07:38 PM
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    Isn't the point that we should all be constructive and helpful? If we were all on one huge allotment, sharing tips and asking for advice, we wouldn't expect people to be rude to each other. I think the same should apply here, even if we are semi/anonymous
  • 18/01/2009 08:14 PM
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    Hello DigJane, What a lovely Utopian thought, I think we can all manage to be courteous to one another, I think if we were all one one big allotment there would be many a falling outBig Smile organics on one side and chemical on the other. I know what you mean though DigJane, although some people are less inclined than others to be nice, speaking as one of the "dirty dozen" as it were, I like all types of posters to come and be members, and there is room for conflicting opinions without resorting to being rude, and I have to say in all the years I've been dominating this forum I haven't seen a message that I could say was rude, have you seen one DigJane?

    digger Devil
  • 19/01/2009 01:27 PM
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    Any more advice for Matt on his veg growing?
  • 19/01/2009 02:58 PM
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    I think Matt has already had such brilliant advice that he is unlikely to need anymore for a while.

    I would say that we have moved on to something even more interesting, and therefore, thank-you, Matt.

    On the other hand he may also be wondering what on earth he did to unleash this teacup-sized storm.

    I don't know either.

    Boggy 

     

     

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  • 20/01/2009 02:30 PM
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    • miranda
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    That's an enviable vegetable plot you've got there, Tee Gee! I bet you win a few prizes. How long have you been working it? 
  • 20/01/2009 06:10 PM
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    Now would be a good time to know if TeeGee is a "professional" or will TG receive the lash of Ventnors anger for being amateurHmm

    digger Devil