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Contaminated Manure

Last post 30-09-2009 3:01 PM by red yead. 116 replies.

• 23/07/2009 08:23 PM	In reply to
  glallotments Location: West Yorkshire Joined on: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 3	Reply | Contact The latest ACP recommendation is to reinstate the licence. See http://www.glallotments.btik.com/p_herbicide_latest.ikml for latest information.

• 24/07/2009 07:34 AM	In reply to
  headfullofbees Location: Cheadle Hulme Joined on: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 114	Reply | Contact If notification is absolutely compulsory, failure to divulge being treated as the criminal offence it is, then the market will kill aminopyralid.

• 24/07/2009 11:25 AM

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  Digger Location: Northern UK Joined on: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 4,743

  Reply | Contact Absoloutely, I can't see manure prodcuers wanting to disclose the aminopyralid in their feed or of course in the manure,because no one will touch the manure with a barge pole! the manure can be stored for a while but eventually it will have to be disposed of as waste, this is when the producers will reralise that it's an expensive folly to have the aminopyralid in their muck. All producers are now fully aware of the issue,so if they do use aminpyralid feed I have no sympathy whatsoever for them getting stuck with tonnes of manure,perhaps once a lawsuit rolls in against someone's being negligent to disclose aminopyralid in their manure ,then things will stop, but as you say headfull maybe the market will dictate what happens. From my point of view as a manure producer (not me, my horses) it would display stupidity on a massive scale to allow anything containing aminopyralid anywhere near your stock? I wouldn't use it if it was the last weedkiller on Earth? digger

• 24/07/2009 11:58 AM	In reply to
  glallotments Location: West Yorkshire Joined on: 17 Jul 2009 Posts: 3	Reply | Contact New epetition at http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/aminopyralidban/

• 24/07/2009 06:17 PM	In reply to
  bigsusan55 Location: North-West London Joined on: 14 May 2009 Posts: 144	Reply | Contact  Signed.  Hey, we could make a guess at who is who on the signatures.  Less than 20 there at the moment.

• 24/07/2009 06:32 PM

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  bogweevil Location: Joined on: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 2,043

  Reply | Contact I hate to say it but I think the stewardship proposals have considerable merit and a high probablity of success - given the benign environmental nature of aminopyralid compared to other pasture weedkillers, for all but gardeners (being bound to plant material it does not get into animals, milk, meat, groundwater, ditches, rivers etc and is quickly decomposed by soil organisms, only needs to be applid every other year) it may be hard for the authorities to refuse permission for re-instatement.  One has to wonder what the market will be though given the need to occassionally conserve forage even on grazing land and the loss of flexibility for agricultural operations.   Boggy Beware the bat-eared bogweevil

• 24/07/2009 06:47 PM	In reply to
  Digger Location: Northern UK Joined on: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 4,743	Reply | Contact If the weedkiller is re introduced, without any changes to it's useage conditions, how can the situation that has occured be prevented from recurring? forunately we don't use the weedkiller anyway ,so it doesn't make any difference to my grazing land. digger

• 24/07/2009 10:18 PM	In reply to
  Aging Misery Location: woking Joined on: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 78	Reply | Contact Why do you hate to say that this herbicide has a valid use?   Beetling ahead....maybe.........?

• 24/07/2009 10:19 PM

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  bogweevil Location: Joined on: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 2,043

  Reply | Contact The changes are not to its use, but to the way it is used. Assuming of course that the conditions are followed and policed they make sense. As Dow have spent squillions on this product and as continued withdrawal in Britain will make life difficult for them in other markets I would think they would try hard to avoid a repeat - this episode has been disastrous for them and they won't want to make the same mistake twice. Boggy Beware the bat-eared bogweevil

• 24/07/2009 10:31 PM	In reply to
  Aging Misery Location: woking Joined on: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 78	Reply | Contact Come on Bogey, Try the odd million (not squillions). I am sure that you have an overestimation of the importance of our lovely kingdom when it comes to how Dow Chem spends its research Billions - perhaps worth looking at their balance sheet as opposed to the UKs (or the RHS for that matter!)   Beetling ahead....maybe.........?

• 30/09/2009 01:07 PM	In reply to
  Lloyd Location: Sandy Joined on: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 61	Reply | Contact Apologies for cross posting, but those following this thread might be interested in the offer from Dow to take away your contaminated manure.  http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/forums/t/24088.aspx  Lloyd

• 30/09/2009 03:01 PM

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  red yead Location: lancashire Joined on: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 20

  Reply | Contact hi lloyd ave just read ur message un yeah they do use weedkillers to much in agricultral use but theres more worring fugicides used in preventing fruit n veg from rotting before they are delivered to super stores especialy when it comes from abroad. and can i ask where you got your manure from if it came from a local small farmer you,ve probaly no worries chemicals are very exspensive now so small farms tend not to use many specialy if they only ave lifestock but next time your shoppin look at the fruit n veg un ask your self being a grower yourself how they get them so clean un not a mark on um !!!!!!!!