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  • 07/06/2008 12:49 AM
    • schol49
    • Oban Argyll
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    We see someone, who it seems is trying to divert attention to me as an expert,

    Whereas, all I have done is pass on expert, views, undiluted, unchanged.

    I admit I take chances with adaption of the idea of:
    a) The idea of weaving willow

    To Develop a Bower

    But this does not make me an expert upon Bowers.

    Anyway I consulted an Expert My Old Neighbour

    Who was A Farmworker on The EastCoast and had worked with Live Willow Fencing 

    When someone showing their Credentials  or with Personal Experience speaks

    I Listen to their authorative voice.

    Which is why I asked FL let me see you Authority

    As all I hear is:

    Linking C.C.D. and 911  

    and I ask who is seeking the truth

    and who is indulging in sophistry. 

     

    Running Wild in The Wilds of Argyll
  • 07/06/2008 09:11 AM
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    ... and still no evidence, just some appeals to authority and a massive ad hominem

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  • 07/06/2008 03:11 PM
    • schol49
    • Oban Argyll
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     As I was saying I was fascinated to find out TheHoneybee is not Native of The American Continent, it was the European Settlers  brought it  over:

    Throughout the  centuries it  became naturalised but the Native Continental Bees were The Bumble Bee and something called the Carpenter Bee...

    Then The Last Century African Strains were introduced in South America  which bred  with the Native Bee there

    and produced "The Killer Bee" Beloved of Schlock Hollywood Horror Film Directors...

    Which it seems has penetrated Someof The Farwestern States but has been also found in California.

    So will the (American) HoneyBee be forced into extinction through the  The Combined Onslaught of The Africanised Bee

    and The Onward March of Roundup.

    An Interesting Comparison is The Red Vs Grey Squirrel when examined Genetically  were found to be Identical so

    rather like The Southern Black Crow and The Hooded Crow native to Argyll which  seems to have crossbred.

    Is The (American)  Honeybee a Victim of  Big Business and Darwin???

    Running Wild in The Wilds of Argyll
  • 07/06/2008 06:01 PM
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    Oh dear, more fallacious logic, a whole heap of mangled science and, not surprisingly, no evidence. As the RHS membership peeps have just been very efficient in replacing my lost card, I'll do my bit to further the education goals of the august body.

    This 

     "So will the (American) HoneyBee be forced into extinction through the  The Combined Onslaught of The Africanised Bee

    and The Onward March of Roundup."

    is a non-sequitur, it does not follow from what went before. You have not established there is any threat of extinction to honey bees or that threat comes from the Africanised bees or from Roundup. You continue to post the same nonsense ignoring the evidence to the contrary. Population collapse in honey bees seems to have happened in the past before the use of Roundup or even the interbreeding of European and African bees, this news from your beloved Texas A&M.

     The squirrels thing is, if you'll excuse the pun, just nuts. If reds and greys are genetically identical how do you explain the phenotypical differences? How do you explain the lack of hybrids?  I think you've come up with a half-baked idea to support your "non-native" theory to explain CCD; how do you explain the beech tree, hostas and homo sapien in my English garden.

    Hooded crows are a sub-species of carrion crows. The hooded crows seem better adapted to higher altitudes and latitudes; where the ranges overlap interbreeding can occur. If one were to take the eggs from a carrion crow and put them into the nest of a hooded crow the chicks would be all black, like their parents.

    "Is The (American)  Honeybee a Victim of  Big Business and Darwin???"

    The honest answer is, "I don't know," but then, neither do you. The difference between us is, I'm not doing the Chicken Little impression.

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  • 07/06/2008 09:58 PM
    • schol49
    • Oban Argyll
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     This Really Fascinating I Write to My Garden Forum

    Yet The Address on My Email confirming The Contribution

    is:

    • By schol49 in Science Exchange 2005
    • Yet I write  as I say to My Garden Forum
    • Not only that
    • There is a Dept of BioTechnology in Nottingham University
    • Also I never stated The Common Crow was not related to The Hooded Crow
    • Likewise the Data  re  Grey and Red  Squirrels being the same species I believe I read in The Guardian.
    • The Information re The Honeybee The Africanised Bee was jointly gathered from Scientific and University Sites
    • Yet our Nottingham Friend speaks of Fallacious Statements.
    • Oh yes  by the way there are Purple/Black Offsping  Not all The Crows are Black
    • This I have seen  in My Garden
    • Also when I try link with My Garden Forum using this weird url
    • I get told it doesn`t exist most curious

     

    Running Wild in The Wilds of Argyll
  • 08/06/2008 08:46 AM
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     I have no idea what you are saying, but I want more.

     

    Boggy

     

     

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  • 08/06/2008 02:01 PM
    • schol49
    • Oban Argyll
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     Well Nottingham interested me long before FL came on to my Radar in That I`d pluck`d a Nottingham Rose From Fair Loughborough Road My Wife Eldest Daughter of Henry Swain County  Architect and Speaking of Loughborough I remembered that in Loughborough Fison`s had a major Factory and wondered had it been taken over by Monsanto it had not. So I went back and looked at The beginning of this Thread I was Sure enough I had not mentioned Monsanto by Name:

    It  was true I had not but other`s had so why was FL flaming me when until well into the thread Ihad not even mentioned Monsanto. I had thought the thread was developing nicely we were getting into Ethical Investments and other related stream of conciousness ramblings.  

    Whereas other were talking of glyphosates I`d mentioned BabyBio then trying to get information of Colony Collapse I stumbled on to "The World According to Monsanto" and duly posted it. then FLs Personal Attacks began just stopping short of calling me a Liar.

    Unknown to FL The Scottish Coat of Arms  has The Motto      No one provokes me with impunity. (motto of the kings of Scotland); Noli me tangere! [literally, do not touch me; fr. Jesus' words to Mary Magdalene (Jn ...

    Also Truth whilst not a Neccesity Nevertheless Remains an Imperative 

    Truth is The Most Precious Thing To Me 

    I HATE with a Loathing beyond description Being Called A Liar

    So in this Day and Age the only Free Agency the One Governments and Big Business would Like close down

    The Internet and Forums such as this

    When in Doubt Google Try Nottingham and Monsanto Boggie 

    Weirdly Enough It was a Monsanto Forum which Gave me  The The Information of The MicroBioTechnology Dept in Nottingham University  

    An Aside One of My Favourite Songs 

    Is The Old Song which Goes 

    "Brutes and Braggarts may have their  Little Day  

    We Shall Never Bow The Knee

    God is Drawing His Sword

    We are marching with the Lord

    And to Hell with Burgundy

    I`m Sure Boggie You catch My Drift 

       

     

    Running Wild in The Wilds of Argyll
  • 08/06/2008 02:58 PM
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    As always, plenty of handwaving, more ad hominems and now an attempt to place me in "the conspiracy."

     Can't see any evidence though.

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  • 08/06/2008 03:04 PM
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    "I HATE with a Loathing beyond description Being Called A Liar"

     Yeah, it'd be a terrible thing if it had actually happened.

     

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  • 15/07/2008 10:16 PM
    • digger
    • North East Lancashire
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    OMG I cannot belive that i had overlooked this thread, the most of it seems to have happened whilst I was away on R&R, it has developed into quite a ding dong

    digger Devil Lancashire is the ideal place for the 5th garden
  • 15/07/2008 11:02 PM
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    it's keeping me quite entertained...

  • 16/07/2008 03:01 PM
    • Susiq
    • Northumberland
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    Seems to have 'died a death' - tho' hope no one has literally taken up the challenge - handbags at dawn?!?!?!?!

  • 16/07/2008 03:30 PM
    • digger
    • North East Lancashire
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    Aye susiq it does seem  to have gone off the boil a little, i do remember posting right at the beginning of the thread but then i went away for a while, it looks like it developed into a fairly contentious issue and somehow i must have overlooked it since.

    digger Devil Lancashire is the ideal place for the 5th garden
  • 16/07/2008 06:45 PM
    • schol49
    • Oban Argyll
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     As they say Digger 

    The caravan it moveth off, leaving behind but little evidences.

    I was more interested in the offshoot re ethical banking,

    but heyho,  we obviously stirred certain interests which disagreed with honest open debate

    What can I say not a lot, what has been said, has been said, and so ,now I`ll say more squire know what I mean.  

    Running Wild in The Wilds of Argyll
  • 16/07/2008 06:48 PM
    • digger
    • North East Lancashire
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    I'm all for open debate as I am sure that you are, I remember the post from Phot's re the banking and my reply and then your contribution, but then it seems to have diverted, maybe we should start a new thread about ethical financial institutes, I don't know for sure but I think Phot's was talking about the Co op bank?

    digger Devil Lancashire is the ideal place for the 5th garden